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So I sat around long enough last night,
and eventually J came to my door and said "still hungry? let's go."

He wanted to just do drive through,
but in getting shoes and stuff and getting to the car we started gabbing,
so I suggested somewhere to sit down and talk.

We have the strangest conversations in public.
This topic got taken to a disturbing level.
Which was made more amusing by the fact that not 5 minutes after we ordered,
a family with two kids,
wait, I only recall seeing one, around 4 years old, but it sounded like two.

Anyhow, around midnight and screaming fussy toddler.

My annoyance was slightly lessened by my amusement
at J's violent cringing every time the fucktrophy screeched.
At one point I did think he was going to twitch-cringe right out of his seat.
And he WANTS kids one day.

Then they let it run helter skelter about the area,
crawling under empty booths, running into chairs.
J very obviously resisting putting out his foot to trip the child.

Which then led to a big discussion about why people don't parent anymore,
it's funny, I try to be polite or quiet, because I know I'm not the popular opinion.

I just usually quietly cringe or move,
but J's sitting there, loudly saying "WHY DON'T PEOPLE FUCKING CONTROL THIER CHILDREN!?"
and "Why the fuck would you BRING YOUR KID OUT AT MIDNIGHT?"

Sometimes eris isn't the loud offensive one, go figure.

And so I'll end this with a quote from one of my customers:

"You mean you're going to MAKE ME sit here all weekend with FIVE KIDS and NO TV!?"

Date: 2006-01-22 11:15 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
I have 5 kids, love them to death, and I can totally sympathize with you. For one thing, its totally innapropriate to have your 4 year old out at midnight, why the hell wasn't the kid in bed sleeping? Thats why you get a baby sitter, if you want to go out to an adult place and play adults. And if you do go to a place where other people just want a nice quiet place to eat and talk, you either control your child (which by the way doesn't start there at the restaurant, it has to have started 4 years ago, and the child must know what is okay behaviour and be controllable before you ever set foot in a restaurant. If not, then pick up your stuff and leave. Go to a kid-friendly place. Thats what McDonald's is for. Running around, crawling under seats? Bothering everyone? The crying and screaming alone was inconsiderate. And I can say that, I have a 13 year old, a 10 year old, an 8 year old, 4 year old, and a 21 month old. Kids are great - its the parents that are out of control and obnoxious. You are right, people have forgotten how to parent.

Fucktrophy - never heard that one. Interesting. It's hurtful and funny at the same time.

By the way, loved the conversation you were referring too. You are hilarious. Nice plan.

Date: 2006-01-22 11:16 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Didn't mean to be anonymous. I wrote the last comment.
FallenAngel

Date: 2006-01-23 12:17 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] projectx.livejournal.com
If you want to be really pissed off, you should be a graveyeard waitress at an IHOP..
It was worse when we had a smoking section. Infants in a chain smoking crowd with poor ventillation. I was pissed, and refused to sit/wait on someone because of it. I couldn't control my mouth.

Date: 2006-01-23 12:37 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] eris.livejournal.com
Yeah, I did leave out that we were in the smoking section.
And this was a bar-dominated establishment.

Date: 2006-01-23 12:50 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] projectx.livejournal.com
Ahh yes, returning to their roots. It's amazingly nostalgic to get teary-eyed over the palces they first met. If only it was the bar it really happened in, but something about kids in bars.. I wish I could remember what the age restriction was.
Fucking Bar-flies.
Literally.

I have no sympathy nor love for people who do that to their kids. I know the point of view is different for those who have them, but you know what. They too were the ones who said "Not in a million years would I do that to my kids", and now they are in Sin City throwing thier money away in slots coming back with nothing to show for, possibly selling the house and moving in to a trailor over their follies. Bud Light anyone? "Jerry! Jerry!"
At least Disneyland would have given the kids a memory of happiness in their soon to be miserable lives. How can I say taht? It's simple. Parents who are that self centered are not going to give their kids what they need to be happy and healthy physically or otherwise. It would be too inconvienient for them. I mean, how can you have the Superbowl without an 800 inch plasma Hi-Def TV, and no beer?!
At that point those kids are the best thing that has ever come out of them, and it's too bad they fucked them up.
There is something to be admired about ruling with an iron fist and being a hard ass parent when need to be.

::a-hem::
Angry.
Sorry.

parents

Date: 2006-01-24 01:55 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
I am fallenangels husband, and you are absolutely right, kids need to stay out of bars, and parents need to RAISE their kids not co-habitate with them. There are consequences for disobedience, they should be equivalent to the disobedience, ( child abusers are worse than drunks ).
I love the Simpsons, so many socially relevant referances, one of wich was a episode with Ned Flanders as a child, his parents would not discipline him and he acted up, in fact he was a holy terror, they went to a child physcologist and said " we have tried nothing for years and it hasn't worked " ( in a surprised tone ).
Wal Mart employees cannot say Merry Christmas because they will offend their non-christian shoppers ( money talks ), but a mother can walk down the street smoking a ciggarette while she is pregnant and nobody will say anything.
I will tell you another thing that gets me hot under the collar, when you see an adult bundled up because it is cold and they are walking with a baby that is in full diapers an a shirt, and if they are really thoughtful, socks. WHAT THE FUCK. Kids are an amazing gift ( I am not religous, in fact I am athiest, just don't know how else to describe it ). They require our undevided attention, if you can not provide that because beer or crack is more important, give up your child for adoption, there are plenty of barren women who long for a child and will make incredible mothers.

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