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I'm going to start choosing religious holidays that look interesting,
and observing them.

I wish I had known about Sukkot sooner,
I had only been looking at catholic holidays and some eastern religion things,
Judaism hadn't occurred to me.
THEY'VE GOT A LOT OF CRAZY HOLIDAYS,
especially the orthodox Jews.

Sukkot looks fun, I'll have to remember that for another year.

Date: 2006-10-07 04:15 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lurker.livejournal.com
Don't forget the Eastern Orthodox/Catholic festivities. We're a bit more strict in our fasting, but man, you should see the foods we eat post fast. :)

Date: 2006-10-07 04:35 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] eris.livejournal.com
Yeah, I was looking up prayers for all saints day, and reading about lent, just a few days ago.

Except the pope may abolish limbo.

Isn't limbo the same as purgatory?
If so, then what happens to all the prayers for souls in purgatory on all saints day and the surrounding holidays?

Oh, no, I just consulted wikipedia, limbo is for unbaptised babies, and purgatory is sort of a hell lite? Diet Hell?

Date: 2006-10-07 11:17 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lurker.livejournal.com
Limbo actually can't really be abolished since technically it was never officially established as real. It's just a widely accepted concept. That said, it differentiates from Purgatory in a couple of aspects. The concept of Purgatory is that of a place of final cleansing before entering Heaven. All of one's minor faults are purged and one is made ready to enter Heaven. Limbo arose from the view that baptism is salvic in and of itself. For those who died unbaptised, well, they weren't saved. There later of course came some clarifications. Unbaptised people who were in the process of learning the faith but died before their baptism were considered baptized by desire. The idea being that God would look upon their desire to eventually be baptised as valid. There is also the concept of baptism by blood, where those unbaptised who are martyred while professing/defending the faith are assumed to be baptised. Going a bit further, theologians came to the problem of unbaptised babies. They obviously couldn't be baptised by desire as they were too young to understand the need. Nor could they obvioulsy be considered martyrs. That said, nobody in their right mind obviously believed God would send them to Hell as He is just and merciful. So where then would they go? Someone proposed a state called Limbo and it was widely accepted (if not officially). Now, officially the Church's position on unbaptised babibes is that we don't know where they go for sure, but that we simply entrust them to God's infinite mercy.

I'll try to look up some more in depth links for you later. :)

Date: 2006-10-07 02:34 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] projectx.livejournal.com
Apprently my link didn't work.
< aref="http://www.hancholo.com/">Let's try it again?

Date: 2006-10-07 02:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] projectx.livejournal.com
::shrug::
eh, good enough.

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